This week I’ve asked Jennifer Sanford to join me. While not a professional photographer, Jennifer is a political and PR consultant with her own podcast called Conservative Like Me. I asked her to talk to me because a) she’s been a guest and collaborator on my other podcast Kyle and Dave vs The Machine and she’s smart and well read; and b) because she “quote unquote” leans to the right politically and as artists we need to keep our ears open to the full spectrum. I think we’ll discover that we’re not that different. At all.

I ask her about the use of photography and truth forming, politics, and propaganda. We discuss the tension in the recent rise of so called nationalism, think MAGA, and I ask the most important question… what is up with Geese? They’ve been hissing at me on my runs and I’m just tired of their devil-may-care attitude. Protected animal my ass. Anyways, here’s the first part of my discussion with Jen.
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